taskinst vs. Don't tell me by Hoobastank - Page 9

jbrat2219 · #**161** 26th August 2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

How is that bad? It's far from bad. It's GREAT, because it means that it's tasuku's work to begin with, so he can do w/e he wants.

[Sure, people might get all riled up like here at AHS, but eh. Whatever. Just because it's not a personally acknowledged "cover that isn't really a cover"... doesn't mean that it's bad]

So if it's tasuku's song to begin with, he didn't copy he just shared it :O

That makes me feel a lot better lol

ストロボ・EdGE · #**162** 14th December 2010, 04:40 AM

Crap I accidentally listened to like a doll. It sounds great lol.

YUP OUT OF ALL THE SONGS EVER AYU COPIES A KOREAN SONG FROM THE 80S ABOUT HISTORICAL KOREAN MEN.

If anything has been plagiarized, it's that one interlude in Secret that totally and completely ripped off that Hoobastank song. No one cared about that though.

StarSUCKER · #**163** 14th December 2010, 04:40 AM

I think I just heard the pop of the safety tab on a can of worms. :x

pepper · #**164** 14th December 2010, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE

If anything has been plagiarized, it's that one interlude in Secret that totally and completely ripped off that Hoobastank song. No one cared about that though.

showme!

emi♡ · #**165** 14th December 2010, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE

If anything has been plagiarized, it's that one interlude in Secret that totally and completely ripped off that Hoobastank song. No one cared about that though.

Seriously. Was it secret? I thought it was MU...or maybe there's a bunch lol

But honestly, listening to the previews...I mean, people HAVE to be prepared for comparisons, because a lot of the melodies are not really...unique.

And I mean, they don't really have to be imo, I like them this way...but, there are definitely songs out there that are going to sound like these...

and I don't really think it's intentional, I think they just wanted these particular sounds.

But we probably shouldn't get out the Ayu x Plagiarism argument, lest the stans go into attack mode.

Pieces_of_SEVEN · #**166** 14th December 2010, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by emiko

But we probably shouldn't get out the Ayu x Plagiarism argument, lest the stans go into attack mode.

*gets ready to pounce*

ストロボ・EdGE · #**167** 14th December 2010, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by emiko

But we probably shouldn't get out the Ayu x Plagiarism argument, lest the stans go into attack mode.

Agreed.

I'm so excited for the PVs... I'm not watching the previews, I want to wait for the whole thing but the CM has me so pumped. Kickin' Distance Love ass.

truehappiness · #**168** 14th December 2010, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pepper

showme!

Hoobastank's Don't tell me. taskinst is the interlude.

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...ght=hoobastank

It's probably better talk about it here.

[You know, it's really hard to find a writing credit for this song. I know people in the thread mentioned that it was written by band members but now you can't even find that credit.]

Sirea · #**169** 14th December 2010, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE

If anything has been plagiarized, it's that one interlude in Secret that totally and completely ripped off that Hoobastank song. No one cared about that though.

If you're talking about taskinst, I just listened to it, and it really is quite a common chord progression and harmonic rhythm used in rock music. Besides, it's not like Hoobastank has ever done anything terribly original and inventive to begin with... xD

pepper · #**170** 14th December 2010, 05:02 AM

^ yep, i can hear it. But got nothing really to say about it. I dont care about these things. I ENJOY MUSIC NOT DRAMA <3 (... maybe a little of drama, i promise.)

love in music · #**171** 14th December 2010, 05:02 AM

^^^yeah. that's her only song I think that is completely plagiarized.. and it's not really even a full song, just an interlude. I don't listen to it because it's annoying and I hate how it's a ripoff.

kumikomishitate · #**172** 14th December 2010, 05:05 AM

.....whoa, those two do sound completely alike. Lol. Interesting...

ストロボ・EdGE · #**173** 14th December 2010, 05:07 AM

IDK I mean, tasuku was obviously working on a tight schedule and maybe thought he created something that was actually just a memory of something else. WHO KNOWS.

StarSUCKER · #**174** 14th December 2010, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE

IDK I mean, tasuku was obviously working on a tight schedule and maybe thought he created something that was actually just a memory of something else. WHO KNOWS.

Yeah, that's a pretty common thing for people to do without realizing, actually.

SO GUYS, HOW ABOUT THAT LOVE SONGS ALBUM?

Sirea · #**175** 14th December 2010, 05:11 AM

Hmm. Yeah there's a fine line. I hear similarities but the notes and chords really aren't exactly the same. It seems that the first 4-note phrase of taskinst shifts up a whole step whereas in Hoobastank's song it seems to shift up a half step which causes the rest of the melody to differ.

Once the style changes, the chord progression in taskinst seems to have a slower harmonic rhythm than in Don't Tell Me - basically, the chords in Don't Tell Me switch faster. I can't exactly put my finger on the difference, but the chords themselves don't seem to match up perfectly to one another either.

It's kind of a slippery slope. Like I said, there are similarities, but a theoretical and analytical standpoint, the differences seem to be present enough to make the whole concept debatable.

Coelacanth · #**176** 14th December 2010, 05:13 AM

taskinst was an obvious rush job. We all know tasuku can do much, much better in terms of interludes.

emi♡ · #**177** 14th December 2010, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirea

If you're talking about taskinst, I just listened to it, and it really is quite a common chord progression and harmonic rhythm used in rock music. Besides, it's not like Hoobastank has ever done anything terribly original and inventive to begin with... xD

It's more than than just chord progressions and rhythms lol

But anyway...I don't really mind that it's a rip off, but it's a song that obviously isn't as good as his other creations. He should rip off better songs.

How about that Love Songs album. It's taking ****ing forever to leak, and the short versions are so incredibly annoying, and if this album disappoints me, I'm going to be extremely depressed.

Heavenly · #**178** 14th December 2010, 05:40 AM

After i've seen this video of Hoobastank, i realize how much it would be soooo awsome if Ayu had made a full song out of taskinst

truehappiness · #**179** 14th December 2010, 05:40 AM

IMO, it'd be rather funny if tasuku came out of the woodwork and said that he has never listened to Hoobastank OR if he said he composed the "original" as well.

Same goes for this from Granado Espada by S.F.A. which came out in beta in 2005[?] / 2007 [?]~ Not sure if the soundtrack had been implemented fully during the beta.

~tasking~

Oh, tasuku... I love your arrangements and fairyland, so why the heck did this keep happening?

Heavenly · #**180** 14th December 2010, 05:44 AM

^it's even more obvious than the Hoobastank's song haha